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Today someone told me that the star of David is occult.
He made references to the following verses:



Amos.5
[26] But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves.
Acts.7
[43] Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.



I've heard of this reasoning before but never took the time to study it. There seem to be many people here with much knowledge. Have you studied it? Share some thoughts or guidance if you have any.

Thanks, blessings.

Hello Brother,

There is a really good article that Eliyahu wrote which includes much of the history of the Davidic star on this web site.   Here is the link to the article, which mentions the star within the context of the Messianic seal that 1st century believers used. 

http://www.tsiyon.org/seal/index.html

Blessings,
Dawn

Thanks Dawn - good article.

Here is what I put together this afternoon. It may need some correction but, here goes -

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Num 24:17      I shall see him, but not now: I shall behold him, but not nigh: there shall come a Star out of Jacob, and a Sceptre shall rise out of Israel, and shall smite the corners of Moab, and destroy all the children of Sheth.

Amo 5:26    But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves.

The word, ko·käb (star) is used four times in the Tanakh. In these passages, “star” it carries several connotations. One usage is a metaphysical use to indicate a prince, as in Nu 24:17. There is the use of actual stars to denote brothers, numerous progeny or a group of select individuals, as in Ge 37:9. In Ps 8:4, we have another direct reference to the created “stars” of the heavens. Finally, in Am 5:26 we have the star used figuratively to indicate the personification of the gods and the images worshiped (most probably a statue of the Assyrian-Babylonian god of the planet Saturn and used to symbolise Israelite apostasy). Note: the majority of the almost 40 uses of ko·käb, in its plural form/usage, it is used to denote or reference actual “stars” or "star gazers".

The Acts.7:43 reference is made directly back to Am 5:26. See added comments inserted below between [xxx].

43 You have lifted up the shrine of Molech and the star [the symbolic personification] of your god Rephan, the idols [the objects created] you made to worship. Therefore I will send you into exile’ {Am 5:25-27} beyond Babylon.

While it cannot be absolutely ruled out that the Acts 7 and Am 5 passages do not refer to actual stars (real or fabricated), of all the false gods Israel followed over the centuries, of the use of use of astrology that seers used to foretelling of events, etc. I have yet to find where any Jew actually worshiped “the stars” or “a particular star” as an actual god.

Most likely what we have here (but not absolutely conclusive) is another attempt to take a single word out of the New Testament verse (which is related back to a Tanakh scripture) and attempt to bring another measure of contemporary discredit to Jewish history. If the symbol of the State of Israel can be discredited (vilified) in the eyes of the world, especially Christians, then support for the nation of Israel will be more difficult to obtain and maintain.

Sometimes, one must look past the accusation and try to discern its purpose. Such charges become even more affective when those asking questions that presuppose a negative answer are unaware of their manipulation.

For example: What if some occult group used (or uses) a six-sided star in their signs and symbols? Does that mean that all six-sided stare represent evil? Not likely. The United States uses an eagle for its symbol. So did Nazi Germany and the Roman Empire, but I see no move to indict America as an evil empire, based on their national symbol.

Recommendation: Don’t get drawn into discussions where the outcome is predetermined - and you’re the fall guy.

Shalom!
Bringing a broader aspect into these discussions:

That which is created for good by ABBA YHWH has been corrupted, distorted, manipulated, abused and counterfeited. 

Worse than that, more distortion has been added and created by mankind having opened themselves to demonic powers/authority.

Folks who travel, particularly from the West, to Asia, and the 'exotic' East, purchase artefacts
of worship in ignorance; displaying them proudly as centre-piece decor or for social conversation, or as artefacts of their travel adventures, in their homes. 
These are abominations to YHWH, bringing these items into our homes.
These folks have absolutely no idea of the spirits behind those artefacts, or the intentions of its maker.
If these are strictly for money-making purposes, such talents in wood-crafting could be put to good use, making beautiful items for home decor.
I would often speak up that those displayed objects are so ugly and give me the shivers; they would ask why? Why do you fear them? I would answer it is not fear, I can sense the evil behind the objects!
Then I would proceed to explain that these are objects worshipped as gods. Their replies-Oh, we don't worship them, they meant nothing to us! But, I would say, you are welcoming them into your homes! You don't mind them sitting as centre-piece in your homes!
Most of them would have eyes big as    as understanding dawn upon them.

We have to be alert where such creation ideas come from.
Just as paintings from folks who are mentally-disturbed are so troubled in their spirits, paint the most grotesque objects from off their minds!

The Magen David has become a symbol of Yisrael. We used to wear them, but in certain countries we went to in Europe, we were advised not to, for our own safety reasons.

Discernment between clean and unclean is good habitual excercise!
Blessings,
Ester.

Bro Art,

You wrote,

For example: What if some occult group used (or uses) a six-sided star in their signs and symbols? Does that mean that all six-sided stare represent evil? Not likely. The United States uses an eagle for its symbol. So did Nazi Germany and the Roman Empire, but I see no move to indict America as an evil empire, based on their national symbol.

Recommendation: Don’t get drawn into discussions where the outcome is predetermined - and you’re the fall guy.

Amen!

So often we find ourselves debating things which prove to be more a poor use of time and energy in an effort to be "right". Thanks for your wisdom...I so enjoy your postings!

Crosstalk aka PC

Hi friends,

It is a joy to have such knowledgable and reasonable folks here at our forum. The answers to this question were excellent! You can be sure that any symbol, word or concept that is given by YHWH to His people is sure to be appropriated and distorted by the occult agents of the enemy.  This has been true with the Star of David, which is actually the original symbol of the House of David. That star has been appropriated as an occult symbol. However, it did not ORIGINATE as such. In this case the pagans are borrowing from us and not the other way around.

Shalom,

Eliyahu