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The Scriptures clearly teach that Messiah has two natures, that of both God and man, in one Person. This is a fundamental truth of Scripture and any departure from it is heresy (Jude 1:3+4). Note these examples from Scripture:

Yeshua as God and as Man

He is Son of God. (Jn. 1:34)
He is Son of Man. (Matt. 8:20)

He knows all things (John 21:17).
He grew in wisdom (Luke 2:52).

He is prayed to (Acts 7:59).
He prayed to the Father (John 17:1).

He is worshiped (Matt. 2:2,11; 14:33).
He worshiped the Father (John 17).

He is sinless (1 Pet. 2:22, Heb. 4:15). 
He was tempted as we are (Matt. 4:1, Heb 4:15).

He gives eternal life (John 10:28).
He died (Rom. 5:8 ).

All the fullness of deity dwells in Him (Col. 2:9).
He has a body of real flesh and bones (Luke 24:39).

Cults Deny the Two Natures of Messiah
Cultists do not know Messiah and therefore deny Him as either God or Man, being unable to logically accept both. The Jehovah's Witnesses accept the humanity of "Jesus" but deny His divinity. To justify this they quote the many verses affirming "Jesus" as a man while undermining all verses that teach the Son as being Divine. In fact, they actually have altered their New World Translation Bible to sanitize the Divine Nature of the Son out of it! On the other hand, the Christian Scientists focus on the Scripture verses showing the divinity of "Jesus" to the extreme of denying His human nature. Other examples could be cited to expose the heresy of cultists in denying one or the other nature of Messiah. Especially concerning to me is that this heresy of Monophysitism has popped up recently in Messianic circles, as shown by a recent question from one of our listeners about a recent article from YATI. http://tsiyon.org/podcast/yeshua_the_man/

Two Natures of Messiah Affirmed
As can be seen from the verses above, the early believers in Messiah affirmed both the divine and human nature of Messiah / Christ. This acceptance of the divine and human nature of Christ remained the accepted truth among believers through the early centuries and was affirmed at the Council of Chalcedon in 451 in Asia Minor in what has come to be known as "The Creed of Chalcedon." The reason for this Creed is that it was not until that era that the teaching of the two natures of Christ was being seriously attacked. Here is an English translation of the Creed of Calcedon:

Creed of Calcedon
We, then, following the holy Fathers, all with one consent, teach men to confess one and the same Son, our Lord Yeshua Messiah, the same perfect in Godhead and also perfect in manhood;

truly God and truly man, of a reasonable [rational] soul and body;

consubstantial [co-essential] with the Father according to the Godhead, and consubstantial with us according to the Manhood;

in all things like unto us, without sin;

begotten before all ages of the Father according to the Godhead, and in these latter days, for us and for our salvation, born of the Virgin Mary, the Mother of God, according to the Manhood;

one and the same Christ, Son, Lord, only begotten, to be acknowledged in two natures, inconfusedly, unchangeably, indivisibly, inseparably;

the distinction of natures being by no means taken away by the union, but rather the property of each nature being preserved, and concurring in one Person and one Subsistence, not parted or divided into two persons, but one and the same Son, and only begotten, God the Word, the Lord Yeshua Messiah;

as the prophets from the beginning [have declared] concerning Him, and the Lord Yeshua Messiah Himself has taught us, and the Creed of the holy Fathers has handed down to us.

While not all Creeds of the Church are entirely Scriptural this one is fully in harmony with the verses at the beginning of this article and many others as well. This Creed was declared in defense of the Biblical teaching against the newly arising heresies denying the true humanity of Messiah. Here is a brief history of the development of this heresy broadly called Monophysitism. Monophysitism, from the Greek monos meaning 'one, alone' and physis meaning 'nature' is the heretical position that Christ has only one nature. The heresy of Monophysitism developed in the fourth and fifth century. Let's look into that history now.

History of The Heresy of Monophysitism
The heresy of Monophysitism is traced to the heresy of Nestorianism which was itself a reaction to Apollinarianism. Apollinarianism was the heresy taught by Apollinaris the Younger, bishop of Laodicea in Syria c.361. The heresy of Apollinaris held that the two natures of Christ could not coexist within a single person. His solution was to ultimately affirm only the divine nature at the expense of the human nature of Christ.

Nestorianism was the brain-child of the Patriarch of Constantinople, Nestorius (c. 386–451). Nestorius taught that in the incarnation (the Son of God being born as a man) there were two distinct persons - one human and one divine. Thus, in this teaching, Yeshua was not one person but was actually two persons. Nestorius and his heresy were condemned by the Ecumenical Council of Ephesus in 431. The Council of Ephesus rejected any attempt to explain the duality of Christ's natures at the expense of his unity as a person. This position is Biblically and logically correct since Messiah is not two persons, but is one unique person.

Eutyches of Constantinople (c. 380—456) reacted against this heresy with a new heresy of his own called Eutychianism. Eutyches taught that the human nature of Christ was overcome by the divine, also that Christ had a human nature but it was unlike the rest of humanity. "Eutychianism holds that the human nature of Christ was essentially obliterated by the Divine, dissolved like a drop of honey in the sea, and therefore Christ only had the one (Mono) nature, that of divinity." The result of this heresy was that the human nature of Christ was set aside in favor of one nature - the divine nature only. The end result of this heresy is Monophysitism - denying the true humanity of Messiah.

Why Both Natures Matter
To understand Yeshua for who He truly is we must understand Yeshua is one person with two natures. As we have seen above, He is fully God and fully man. He is the Divine Word that actually "became" flesh as a man (John 1:1,14). His full deity is affirmed by John 10:30-33; 20:28; Col. 2:9; Phil. 2:5-8; Heb. 1:6-8; and 2 Pet. 1:1 and other verses as well.

While fully God, Yeshua is also a man - a human being like us. 1 Tim. 2:3-6 says, "For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior; who desires all people to be saved and come to full knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Messiah Yeshua, who gave himself as a ransom for all."

Read that carefully friends, and be amazed! The man Messiah Yeshua is right now in heaven at the right hand of God. Why? Because only a man like us can be our mediator and Savior. Only real blood, the blood of a real perfect man like Adam in the Garden can pay the price as a propitiation for our sins in the likeness of Adam.  As a man like us Yeshua is our advocate with the Father (1 John 2:1). All hail Yeshua the Messiah! True Son of God and true Son of Man.

Source links:

http://tsiyon.org/podcast/yeshua_the_man/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalcedonian_Creed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monophysitism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eutychianism

Greetings!
Yeshua HaMesiahiach is indeed both Elohim and Man.
This is supported by the many verses from the Bible
1. when Yeshua was in great agony being pressed to submit to YHVH's will to drink the bitter cup of our trangressions to redeem mankind-He said"The spirit is truly ready, but the flesh is weak" Mark 14:38,

2. "Father into Your hands I commend my spirit", and having said thus, He gave up His spirit. Luke 23:46; "Eli, Eli, Why have You forsaken me?" was  Yeshua's grief when there was darkness all over the land. Matt 27:46.

3. "And Yeshua fasted forty days and forty nights, He was afterward an hungered." Matt 4:2. "Yeshua was hungry"-Mark 11:12;

4. "Then they took the body of Yeshua, and wound it in linen clothes with the spices, as the manner of the Jews is to bury" John 19:40

5. Yeshua after His resureection did not disapear out of sight, BUt was visibly taken up into the heavens "and a cloud recieved Him out of their sight" Acts 1:9.

There would be other verses besides those above informing us Yeshua was both YHVH and Man, Who would not be The sacrifice accepted by YHVH as our Redeemer without the shedding of flesh and blood, replacing the sacrifices of bulls and goats, which could not take away sins. Heb 10:4.
"...we are sanctified through he offering of the body of Yeshua" Heb 10:10.
It is a blood covenant.

Let us now return to the Shepherd of our souls. Amen.

Ester.

WOOOOOHOOO!  Amein Amein Amein!!!!!  It is soooo wonderful to find an organization that is not only Lunar based...but also KNOWS and believes and promotes the truth about just who Yahshua is.!!!  .....Shalom

Ester, you have brought forth some great proofs for the truth that our Messiah is both human and divine. Some Messianics today are backing away from this truth. However, it is clearly in the Scriptures from the very start.

"TeshuvahShabbat" - Thank you for your enthusiastic response! It tells me that you know Yeshua and that you care about Him! That IS exactly where we are coming from here at Tsiyon. We have no interest in the game of theological argumentation to be more "right" than the other guy - that many seem so obsessed with these days. What we care about is HIM. That is why we search the Scripures to know and share the truth - because of Him. He needs to always be our focus and our motive in all we do, lest we sink into the same dead religion as the Pharisees.

Of the Pharisees Yeshua said; “You search the Scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and these are they which testify about me.  Yet you will not come to me, that you may have life."  Truth is in the Scriptures - but LIFE is in HIM!    [Yochanan/John 5:39-40]

The thing that saddens me the most is that most do not know just WHO Yahshua really is. Despite the numerous verses that reveal Him, our precious YHWH AND Saviour, Yahshua Ha Masiach, people continue to reject Him. Whether knowingly or not. It never fails to amaze me how people will simply ignore the verses that clearly reveal Him..such as the following verses....may I?

Scripture is clear that Yahshua created all things and that He is the one whom we are espoused to and will marry....

Col 1:16  For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Joh 1:10  He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
Joh 1:11  He came unto his own, and his own received him not.


Isa 54:5  For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.

Hos 2:16  And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD, that thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali.

Rev 21:9  And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.

I ask those Messianics one question, and they cannot answer....WHOM ARE YOU MARRYING?

Joh 8:24  I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
Joh 8:27  They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.

Yahshua is the Alpha and Omega.....this verse shows that he will be revealed as the Father...for only a Father can have a "son"....

Rev 21:6  And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
Rev 21:7  He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

The fact is this. As Omnipresent Spirit, the Father manifested Himself as a human seed in an Israeli woman's womb, to create Himself a human Body to walk earth at first-hand human experience and to succeed in human nature, as a human, and to pay the Highest penalty as The Sacrificial Lamb of YHWH.  When YHWH died on the Stake, most brutally murdered by His own Creation,  His Spirit never died (for it lives eternally) and in Spirit He was still Omnipresently present throughout the Universe!  Thus He could say: "Break down this Temple, and in 3 days I  (YAHSHUA) will resurrect it again!" - How would this be done? - through His omnipresent Eternal Spirit.
This is the Truth that Lucifer hates and opposes with all sorts of reasoning's of a 'multiplicity' God, while his sole purpose is to deny Messiah His Supreme Throne.  Prophecy tells us that Satan expressed the challenge to exalt his own throne above that of YHWH.  Any serious striving Messianic believer should therefore realise the danger of placing or proclaiming another 'father' above the True Father - namely YHWH of Israel, Who manifested Himself as YAH'SHUA the Messiah!

Isa. 43:10,11  "No god was formed before Me, nor will be after Me, I, I am YHWH.  There is no other Saviour but Me"
Isa. 43:6 "Thus says Israel's King and his Redeemer, YHWH Sabaoth, 'I am the First and the Last, there is no other God besides Me.'"  Isa. 45:5 "I am YHWH unrivalled.   There is no other god besides Me

I shall pour out ... and they will look upon Me .... and they will mourn for Him ...  as they mourn for a yachid son."  Now Who is the Spokesman or Orator in this verse?   The context proves (from preceding verses and further succeeding verses) that it is YHWH God Who is speaking in this quoted passage. Thus:  YHWH shall pour out ... and they will look upon YHWH Whom they have pierced! and they will mourn for Him ...  as they mourn for a yachid son.

You know?...one more thing...I would like to share with you all....YHWH showed me something...remember when Abraham went to offer up Isaac, and then YHWH stayed his hand?...well, here is what Abraham said to Isaac...

Gen 22:8  Avraham said, "God will provide himself the lamb for a burnt offering, my son." So they both went together.

What jumped off the page at me many years ago was this: I read it, not as most do, that YHWH would provide a lamb...but that YHWH would "provide HIMSELF" as the lamb!!!!  Halleluyah!!!! 

many advanced Hebraic Restorers acknowledge that Messiah is YHWH - but, they will claim, "He is the 'other' YHWH" - whom they have deliberately created in order to withhold Him from receiving the Supreme Right to Sole Deity as YHWH the Almighty.  This 'other YHWH', they say, is not fully God!   This is an unscriptural and absurdly blasphemous statement!


Many ask absurd questions such as "Did Yahshua pray to himelf?"...and some say that He is just a "representative"...etc...but unless and until they come to realize the DUAL nature..they will forever fail to understand just who Yahshua is!!

Regarding Yahusa being the HOLY SPIRT...2Co 3:17  Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.


Isaiah prophesied that the Messiah would be called Immanuel, that is, God with us (Isaiah 7:14 Matthew 1:22-23).

"God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory" (I Timothy 3:16; see verse 15 for further confirmation that God is the subject of verse 16). God was manifest (made visible) in flesh; God was justified (shown to be right) in the Spirit; God was seen of angels; God was believed on in the world; and God was received up into glory. How and when did all of this happen? In Yahshua.

Yahshua promised to be the Father of all overcomers (Revelation 21:6-7).
In John 14:18 Yahshua said, "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you." The Greek word translated "comfortless" is orphanos, which Strong's Exhaustive Concordance defines as "bereaved ('orphans'), i.e. parentless." Yahshua was saying, "I will not leave you as orphans" (NIV and TAB), or "I will not leave you fatherless: I will come to you." Yahshua, speaking as the Father, promised that He would not leave His disciples fatherless

Oh!! That they would come to know just who Yahsua is! Abba, show them.